Another thing about the fds was he was always happy to serve his master therefore always being ever so loyal to his master. Can we really say that about the witnesses today? When we were in, we always felt like we were never good enough and to do more more more. It wasn't by Jehovah's commandments we felt that way but by the society's long list of do's and don'ts. The more we were doing for society, the farther we were getting away from Jehovah's commandments and his Law. The bible is making so much sense now. These men are the apostates not us!!!!
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Easy. They're the ones that introduced us to the real truth. You could try putting a sign up on the board at the back of your hall:)
Good luck with that for noone studies their bible in this religion. We're going to try sharing what we learn with some of our old return visits. Some have already stated what we're learning sounds alot closer to the bible than what the watchtower taught. Out of the mouths of babes.
Good luck to you.
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And also how Cornelius was suppose to be the first gentile to be in cluded into the "new" covenant. The egyptians as well as the alien resident were allowed to join themselves to Israel, Jehovah's people. That when Jesus came, he was to" renew" the old covenant with Jehovah's people, not start a new covenant. It's been the same covenant all along and that's why Jesus had to come. The pharasees and saducees had gone beyone what was written in the law(torrah) and now when Jesus comes again, he is coming to collect the lost people of Israel. Right now they are scattered all throughout the earth but those who follow Jehovah's commandments from the beginning like Jesus taught and did will be their true followers.
Yesterday we had a turkey dinner and studied Deuteronomy 11:12 to 16:12 Five others came over(ex jws) and we studied what all the Messianic Hebrews were studying world wide. Jw's say they are the onlly ones that study worldwide but it's their literature where they pluck scriptures to suite their doctrines. We study just the bible and are learning so much that we weren't shown in this religion. When ever I learn something I will post. This keeps my mind off of what I just went through with my jc and how day by day I couldn't see the light yet when I had this study yesterday and fellowship I am starting to feel better today. I can totally understand why people take their lives when they feel there's no way out. And all in the name of god. How humiliating, embarraseing that the elders could turn a whole congregation upside down to even lie.
Thanks for being there for us
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Sorry guys hit the wrong button. We all know that scripture was a parable. What Jesus was talking about was back in the hebrew scriptures at Deuteronomy chapter fifteen where the bond servant would be faithful to his master. Everything Jesus quoted was always going back to the Torrah. (first five books of the bible) And if that servant was found faithful he could stay on serving the master indefinitely after his seven years were up. This proves that the faithful and discreet slave are individuals whom only the masters Jesus and Jehovah will know and pick. Not some gb of eight stooges who appointed themselves. Remember in hebrew scriptures, the ones that Jehovah chose would have special powers to do special things like Moses,Jesus ect,, What special powers do these gb goons have besides hateful name calling and how to beat their slaves into submission to the point where they are not allowed to ask questions or they lose their families and friends forever. Jesus condemned that behaviour besides their nicolaotan behavior. There were no hiarchy or positions. Everyone was treated equal.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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We will have that oppurtunity when the two witnesses come and then Jesus. The witnesses are in for a rude awakening when they think the great tribulation will be so quick like in a day some feel yet according to Revelations we have three and a half years to get our act together. Remember when society said the two witnesses were them and their stupid conventions? And then they were to be slaughtered and society said instead they were thrown in jail and that's how the preaching work had stopped momentarily? Umm, if you read in Revelations after the two witnesses are killed then comes Harmegeddon. Has that happened yet? NOT!!!!!!!!!
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Going to Kingdom Hall for first time
by InChristAlone insince my family is out of town, and i am alone this weekend, i have decided to attend this once to see these things for myself.
have no fear, i have absolutely no interest in joining.
my goal is simply to better understand how to reach those who are on the inside, and i feel i could better do that by observing it.
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Tell them your already one of Jehovah's witnesses and your on holidays. Watch how fast your dropped like a hot potato and ignored. Sure you'll get a handshake and a hello but it won't go any further than that!
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Again, we never faded. We just stopped going altogther from over a year ago. This was all brought on because they knew we knew about one of the accusers brother and how he had gotton one of his employees to forge a legat document plus he got drunk one night and smashed in a car by hand. When we tried to bring that up at our jc the elders wouldn't address it. The other accuser was his wife and the other accuser was his brotherinlaw and the other accuser was his buddy that works for him. The best accuser of all was the elder/fillin circuit overseer who's testimony was a false accusation and it's his whole click! His wife studied with the one accuser and he had studied with the guy who smashed in the car. Are you starting to see a theme here?
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Hummingbird, we're only a ten minute drive away from Salem but not the Salem your thinking of. And yes it was just that, a witchhunt!!!!!!!!!! On the tape I'm told that the elders had to talk to others in the congregation for they were asking questions as well and they were all tolHd to stop it and to keep quiet about it. Then they said a local needs was given on foolish questionings and planting seeds of doubt that when the time is right we will recieve more spiritual food , to wait on Jehovah. They told me to just accept that the fds is the fds. Seriously, I got that on tape. They didn't say the governing body is the fds but the fds is the fds. WTH?
Last night we had a bunch in for dinner and bible study and they couldn't believe what they had heard. Hopefully we'll hear back sometime this week from our lawyer.
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AVOIDING A SHEPHERDING CALL: Suggestions pls
by grumblecakes inyup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.
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thanks!!
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If you avoid them by phone like we did, they will come out and sit outside your property until you come out. Then to get you to come to the hall they will go around and try and find as much untruth dirt as they can even if it is going back five years ago, they will also go to your old hall, and then set up a jc hearing. Trust me this is what happened to us. They will find young ones who are desperate for labels to willingly lie as well. And when you decide to tell the co to df you so you can appeal it for it was just such BS he won't for that means you would get three new brothers that will see it was just wrong. But hey, don't take my advice. You could play the health card like our friends from our old hall but eventually enough is enough. We just couldn't live a lie or we would end up like our one friend who thought hanging herself was a better way out. And she had almost a million dollars in her account but constantly had to deal with the rejection of her hall. Tell them you will call them when your hemeroids have shrunken!